Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. They may feel emasculated and when the marriage begins to fail, they lose control and parts of their own identitythis kind of melds into the CIVIL REPUTABLE killer when it comes to identity and it appears both CW and SW had their complete lives wrapped up in their family. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? Required fields are marked *. Hes a fucking psychopath. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. Obviously he came to this conclusion and carried it out. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. Later that day, Nickole went to her house around 12:10 pm after Shanann had failed to attend her OB-GYN appointment and business meeting; she didnt even respond to any of Nickoles messages. A puzzle that is missing many key pieces. Shanann was buried in a shallow grave, while Bella and Celeste were left submerged inside two oil tanks at the site. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. Chris told Shanann he wanted a divorce a few hours later. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. I think she emasculated Chris. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said social media allows for individuals to project a moment in time, versus the realities of their lives. Married 5 years and 9 months. If Chris CHOOSES not to make a choice in anything ie lets watch what you want to watch eat where you want to eat go where you want to go etc that doesnt automatically make Shannan controlling, it makes Chris a boring, spineless, personalityless wimp. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. During the welfare check, the police officer inspected the house but there were no signs of Shanann and her daughters. Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing companywhileChris Watts was employed by Anadarko Petroleum (though he was fired on the day of his arrest) per The Coloradan. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. No one just snaps, Glenn said. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. But this wasnt the trigger, it couldnt be, because Shanann already knew about the divorce, and had known for a long time. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. So theres a match between a victim siding with a victim. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in . I just thank God he took the right Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. Thank you for this. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. You spoil us with love an attention! Interesting none-the-less. He described how he did it. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on Instagram in April. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? An officer arrived at about 1:40 pm to conduct a welfare check and had a discussion with Chris regarding the ways to locate his missing family. I do think he has some sort of an underlying personality disorder, diagnosed or undiagnosedthis would explain a lot of his strange and undetermined behavior patterns since childhood. If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. It paints Watts less a coward than as someone who was bullied into towing a line, until things got desperate. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) - YouTube 0:00 / 7:24 #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about. Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. He smothered his daughters to death, buried his wife in a shallow grave, dumped his daughters' bodies in an oil tank, then he went to work as if nothing happened. Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. It was clear from the messages that Shanann's marriage was in crisis, Chris was at best apathetic about the new baby, the couple had serious financial problems, and Shanann had begun to suspect Chris was cheating on her. When it comes to Familicide, it is really hard to pinpoint and say there were absolutely no outward signs I do think CW appeared to be very standoffish and distant in the last videos of them on the trip. In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. Christopher is now in jail facing six charges three for first-degree murder and three for tampering with evidence. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. He has In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. That last picture here Watts looks like the wolf in sheeps clothing, baring one of his canine teeth. That was definitely the plan." In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. Chris Watts and Shanann Rzucek met in 2010. However, at the same time he was telling Kessinger a slightly different story. I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. Words have devastating consequences. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children, but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? The kids were told to throw chicken nuggets at him. The juxtaposition of Shananns seemingly idyllic life and its violent end has stunned the public and attracted widespread media attention. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Thats so sad. In his eyes they had to go all of them and I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom. They were a family. He figured Ill get what I want and she has a hard time getting pregnant so it will never happen. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. On June 11 . They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. They are doing their best to survive the situation, she said. should communicate even if it is good or bad information. I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? And her house that everyone is talking about? On Aug. 15, 2018, less than a week after his wife and daughters disappeared, Chris Watts failed a polygraph test. I like nice things and having nice experiences. He wants to fade into the background. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. Well, she shouldnt have . According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. They withdraw and distance themselves. She was the same way with her 1st husband. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? I couldnt imagine a better man for us. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. That would have been apparent to me even if I was someones friend visiting them at a get together. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. But I could be wrong. There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. I think that was the form her OCD took. I dont think the affair and murder had to do with being spineless as I believe he was always capable of this he just never had the gull to stand up for himself before (I mean that loosely and sarcastically)by that I mean that he disengaged and went with the fun new model that also slightly resembled his wife. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Shanann Watts was visiting her parents with her two daughters in the area for a summer vacation in the weeks leading up to her murder. The YT video I watched as referenced above has a few parts to it that are quite informative and have helped me to fully understand both sides of this marriageand actually if you ask me, there were more than twothere were 4 CW, SW, NK and his parents (mom) were all involved in the marriage I think there were multiple influences and opinions that were making things toxic on both ends. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. Chris killed his family for several reasons, financially he was ruined. The reasons that many commit such brutal crimes can be caused by issues such as: a breakdown of the family relationship (this was present in the Watts case) as well as tentative, past and current issues with access and parenting of the children; money issues (they also had a bit of financial hardships), possible mental illness is another reason. Thats his choice, how he prefers it. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on, after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. Yes . Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. But the tense silence of pretending everything is fine is not healthy, or helpful. Shanann Watts' FIRST husband: Interview excerpts Thought-provoking videos 6.44K subscribers Subscribe 401 Share 22K views 2 years ago Everyone deserves to know the Truth: That "God is Love". You have some real writing talent. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. I think she went off of what others told her about CW and what she saw for herselfher implying judgement on him, belittling his character, controlling, making off-hand commentsa lot of that is part of her character, she was outgoing, sarcastic and opinionated, that isnt always bad. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . You feel like youre expendable. But even most narcissistic sociopaths dont strangle people. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. DENVER (AP/CBS4) Chris Watts, the sole suspect arrested in the murder of his pregnant wife and two young daughters, before dumping their bodies at an . He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. He also knew that if he left Shanann she would make his life a living hell in every aspect of a divorce. In 2015, Shanann and Chris Watts filed for bankruptcy, listing their liabilities at $400,000. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. Later, Chris confessed to murdering Shanann and his daughters. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. She was previously married to Chris Watts. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. Does anyone one have photos of it? Wake up to the day's most important news. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. He was an attorney correct? The irony is in exactly the same way he didnt feel acknowledged, towards the very end she complained that he hadnt acknowledged her or their unborn child. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. Hopefully hell spend the rest of his life being emasculated by being another prisoners jail bitch. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. lts only one way emotions and feelings. OK honey. That was the plan. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. You spoil us with love an attention! Online, she projected the image of a happy wife. Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. At the time of her death, she was fifteen weeks pregnant with a son who she had named Nico Lee Watts; her date of delivery was January 31, 2019. 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